Jam Notes Podcast: Are Koalas Actual Bears? Also, Learn How Hi-Hats Work!

All of the burning questions finally get answers! Fact checks, follow ups from first 6 episodes. Mike Portnoy is alive! Plus – streaming services and billionaires suck.

Jam Notes (ep. XII): How Hi-Hats Work, Willow, and More Follow-Ups! Science is Real.

Still no band name, tons of jams to listen to. What about Laser Fist? Band-Ter? Off the Roll? Snail Bear? Anyway, we also listen to a jam from April 2024: “Dreamy, Spacey, No Words.”

A very peaceful jam. Finding the groove. Talking about drum heads. How long has Remo been around? BW Derge and Nick Ring complain about stock footage and streaming services.

  • It’s episode 12!
  • Buy Ben a drum kit, become a sponsor.
  • Nightmare on Elm Street facts!
  • Shout out to iHeart app.
  • Duplicate jams, unpublished episodes…
  • Mentioning Fiona Apple, Val Kilmer, and Bam Magera
  • Can you trust A.I. about science?
  • Little tings on the cymbals, finding a groove.
  • Snare starts off… off (without the rattle).
  • Happy jams… it’s a good one.
  • Limited edition VHS tapes? It’s bonkers!
  • We are not sponsored by the Watch Now app.
  • Here comes the tornado!
  • Consider this jam… tabbed. Starred. Noted.

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Are Koalas Actual Bears? - Jam Notes Podcast 12

Jam Notes Podcast 12: Are Koalas Actual Bears? No. 

Jam Notes Podcast 12 Transcript:

Speaker 1 | 00:00
Thank you. Our pet's heads are.
Speaker 2 | 00:02
Falling off! Okay, take two. We're ready.
Speaker 1 | 00:11
We're rolling. We're real.
Speaker 2 | 00:13
Shin Welcome to the Jam Notes Podcast. Welcome. I am your host Durge. This is Nick Ring. Did you differently?
Speaker 1 | 00:23
Just pronounce your last name Yeah, I'm Nick Ring, that's Dergey, whatever your name is, BWD.
Speaker 2 | 00:26
Or Durgy, Dur-jay. Derv. Derv-cious.
Host, yep, guitar host, we listen to jams and talk about them. I think we're close to our 10th episode, if not beyond at this point.
So that's fun.
Speaker 1 | 00:52
Yeah, we're rocking and rolling here. Yeah, I think you have some things to share. Okay, go.
Speaker 2 | 00:58
So we're right off the bat. Here we.
Speaker 1 | 01:01
Yeah, so we, last time, we said we had some fact-checking to do. We... Rattle off random things and we're like, is that even true? Is that real?
Right? Yeah, I don't know So we're following up with some of that bullshit.
Speaker 2 | 01:12
Yes, the first six episodes I But we'll have to do the other ones another time. But episode one. Still had still no band name.
Speaker 1 | 01:23
Well, we haven't decided. We were just talking about it before we hit record.
Speaker 2 | 01:26
There's still no band name. Band-ter was suggested by a fan.
Speaker 1 | 01:32
Is that true? Yes. Okay.
Well, it's not bad.
Speaker 2 | 01:37
Still needs to start practicing more at his house, according to Nick, and I have not done that. I'm okay.
So that's it for Yeah.
Speaker 1 | 01:44
Episode one. Wow, way to check yourself on that. That was some accountability.
Speaker 2 | 01:48
Episode two, possible band name to put on the list, Laser Fist. I love that. Laser Fist is lot.
Speaker 1 | 01:53
That. That just makes me think a.
Speaker 2 | 01:56
We ended that one talking about a boxing match that was to be continued. The fight did not end, so... One of these jams, we got to end that boxing match. Okay. Episode 3. My drum kit is not new yet, nor have I put new heads on it.
Still waiting for a sponsor.
Speaker 1 | 02:15
That's you, speak.
Speaker 2 | 02:17
Up. So, Freddy's dead, the final nightmare. This is in reference to the final sprinkle. -- - Remember, okay.
So Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare is the sixth in the Nightmare on Elm Street series. Came out in 91.
And then in 93, four, three years later, Wes Craven's new nightmare comes out. So it was not the final nightmare. Is what I was trying to say.
Speaker 1 | 02:41
Come on, Wes. You can't.
Speaker 2 | 02:42
Do that. We did not start a new YouTube channel. For the podcast yet. But it is on iHeartRadio. Apple Podcasts. Spotify. And Amazon.
Speaker 1 | 02:59
Whoa. Are we on Substack And Substack.
Speaker 2 | 03:00
Too? And Substack.
Speaker 1 | 03:03
Wow. If you're on any of those websites, check.
Speaker 2 | 03:04
Us out. Same name? Don't need to look at us. It's all audio. Yeah. Yep. But same name. Yep. Jam notes podcast. Check it out. All right. Episode four. We mentioned in that episode that we had already done an episode about that jam five times. And it was true. We did record an episode about that jam, which never was published.
Speaker 1 | 03:25
So we duplicated. We did a duplicate episode of the same jam. We had the sneaking suspicion that we had done it before, but... The jam itself felt like it had happened before. It was a weird deja vu kind of Yeah, I still love.
Speaker 2 | 03:39
Situation. It is a beautiful jam with lots of space. It. From that episode, pilots do not use the term dashboard for airplanes. They use the word instrument panel, primary flight display, or navigation display. Not the dash. What? It's a metal stand that holds two symbols. The bottom symbol is typically fixed to the stand. The top symbol is mounted on a rod that is connected to the pedal that moves it up and down. I did not know that. I actually kind of went on. Fiddle with the boomer done here.
Speaker 1 | 04:18
Yeah, I did know that. And I feel like I was just playing along. Just because, like, yeah, who the hell knows how stuff works? It's a stick with a clamp and the thing's stuck to the other thing.
Speaker 2 | 04:27
I thought there was a string involved.
Speaker 1 | 04:29
A string? They call it a string.
Speaker 2 | 04:32
Hat? Okay, episode five. Putting our jams on Spotify without, you know, our commentary still hasn't happened, but we were talking about that.
Speaker 1 | 04:41
Earlier. Yeah, so we've done 10 episodes now. We figure that's a good batch number. We'll do, put out 10 jams or, you know, the. The things that we covered in those 10 episodes. Either raw or we might. Edit them a little bit, but Yeah, we'll put those out very soon. Hell.
Speaker 2 | 04:58
Yeah. All right. Possible band names again. Off the Roll. Which we when we suggested it has no meaning. Okay, I'll say to and then the band that once had no name and then decided to call themselves this and Then said nah That's awesome.
Speaker 1 | 05:07
Is that in reference.
That is interesting. I like how long it is, but I feel like there's probably a band who's done like a rambling band that isn't this and is.
Speaker 2 | 05:23
That. Very Fiona Apple band. Long titles.
Yeah. Bam and Jared did not go to jail. Ever? No at the time when we were talking about it I thought he might have been in jail he did violate his parole that September but no jail time and I still need to watch the movie Willow I made that's more of a personal note.
Speaker 1 | 05:44
Dude. I just saw it. It's on some platform to stream for free. But Willow's great. If you haven't seen the movie Willow, there's a lot of good stuff in there. It's like if you took The Lord of the Rings and shrunk it down and made it more friendly and fun... And... Val Kilmer's in it and it's like George Lucas, Steven Spielberg And then whoever did the soundtrack or the score It might be John Williams.
Speaker 2 | 06:12
Is...
Speaker 1 | 06:15
I think Yeah.
Speaker 2 | 06:15
You say that in an episode.
Speaker 1 | 06:17
It's just like, it's a banger. You gotta watch.
Speaker 2 | 06:20
Willow. I gotta watch Willow.
Yeah. Episode six, Mike Portnoy is very much alive. Woo! He's age 58.
Speaker 1 | 06:28
I have been on the edge of my seat since we recorded that.
Speaker 2 | 06:30
Episode. And he's still drumming. He did leave Dream Theater in 2010, but rejoined in 2023.
Speaker 1 | 06:39
Okay, sick.
Speaker 2 | 06:41
Possible band names: Snail Bear We didn't suggest it as a band name at the time, but I do say it randomly in that episode. I like it. Snail would it be tiny or would it be Because a tiny bear with a snail shell would be fun.
Speaker 1 | 06:49
Bear. Can you imagine if a bear had like a big shell on the back of it? Or big? It would be gigantic. Okay. That's more like a pet.
Speaker 2 | 07:05
Yeah. Yeah. Then fuck her. Or.
Speaker 1 | 07:06
You get it as a pet and then... You know, within a few years, it obviously outgrows your house.
And then it's a gigantic bear with a gigantic shell.
Speaker 2 | 07:15
So I'll jump over this one. I'll save that for the end and go right back because we're on the bear theme.
So you said panda bears were not bears in the episode. They are bears. What?
Speaker 1 | 07:26
Yes. That is an upset.
Speaker 2 | 07:28
I said that koala bears were neither bear. No, I said they were bears, but they were not marsupials. You said they were not bears, but they were marsupials. You were right on both counts. They are not actual bears, but they are mouse... Two for you, kind of. Okay. But... You ask in that episode, is science real? And Nick, yes, science is real. It is a robust method of understanding the world based on evidence, observation, and experimentation. Did you AI?
Speaker 1 | 07:58
Get that from You can't trust Google AI.
Speaker 2 | 07:59
From Google AI, yes. Some of this is Wikipedia. Bullshit.
Speaker 1 | 08:07
- No. - About science?
Speaker 2 | 08:10
What? All right, so after all that was fun.
Sorry, I can't wait to do more follow-ups.
Speaker 1 | 08:15
Yeah, let's say a bunch of random other bullshit that we don't know the truth about. Yeah, and then we have to correct ourselves. Without further ado... This jam is from April 8th of 2024. This is jam one. That means we're Plugged in, ready to go. And we have a note on this one. It says.
Speaker 2 | 08:40
- And the note. The jam note.
Speaker 1 | 08:43
Dreamy. Dreamy. Spacey. Spacey. No words.
Speaker 2 | 08:47
No words. Right.
Speaker 1 | 08:50
Here we go.
Speaker 2 | 08:59
Great. Yeah, no, it's coming. This is about a year ago from when we were recording this. Ugh.
Speaker 1 | 09:13
Starting off with the tremolo. On the guitar that
Speaker 2 | 09:18
Playing with the cymbals.
Speaker 1 | 09:20
I like when you do like little things on the drums. Big fan of Little Noises.
Speaker 2 | 09:28
Used to almost always start jams on the cymbals just clacking around Trying to find the.
Speaker 1 | 09:34
Groove.
Speaker 2 | 09:44
Very peaceful.
Don't have my snare on, so I'm hitting my snare but it doesn't have the rattle.
Speaker 1 | 09:54
Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 2 | 10:00
At some point I'm going to pause and have to crank that thing on.
Speaker 1 | 10:03
Yeah, your snare is not on now, by the way. Yeah. Because I like to keep it off because it makes noise when you're not here.
Speaker 2 | 10:09
It's calling out for me.
Speaker 1 | 10:14
- It's
Speaker 2 | 10:25
Yep, right here. Now I'm switching it. Yep. There it I might have just gotten a new snare head here.
Speaker 1 | 10:28
Is. Finding your groove.
Speaker 2 | 10:36
I was going to do the rest of them, as we already discussed. Didn't that cost?
Speaker 1 | 10:40
- Yeah. - - How much do those You've written them down multiple times.
Speaker 2 | 10:46
- Not much. Really? It's really, I keep forgetting the measurements. And I swear I wrote them down.
Speaker 1 | 10:54
I've gotten you a tape.
Speaker 2 | 10:55
Measure. Yes, I've even used the app to measure and I know they're all like odd numbers. It's like 11, 13, 15. I think two of them are the same size. Because one's the same size as the snare, but you've got to get a different type of head. - For the snare drum.
Speaker 1 | 11:13
- Obviously.
Speaker 2 | 11:22
Speaking of snare heads, I was watching a Does. Looking for... Stock footage of Civil War reenactors and Revolutionary War reenactors. And... Found a really good one in that. I realized you could see the brand name of the snare head on his old fashioned drum and I was like, that's not authentic.
Speaker 1 | 11:46
Calling them out then. Yeah.
Speaker 2 | 11:48
They didn't do that in the 1700s.
Speaker 1 | 11:51
No.
Speaker 2 | 11:53
And I'm sure it wasn't Remo if they did. Well, that's another factoid. We'll have to check. How old is the company Remo?
Yeah, well, is it Remo? Is that.
Speaker 1 | 12:03
It? I mean, I don't know how else you would pronounce..
Speaker 2 | 12:06
So it is R-E-M-O. Yeah. Okay. But.
Speaker 1 | 12:10
They might be like, I don't know, custom fitted in the authentic style, sizing, whatever, like a remake, you know, reissue Trying to be a historical.
Speaker 2 | 12:19
Kind of. Manufacturer.
I mean, if you're making stock footage of a Or like that. Probably doing it for like high school presentations. Stuff like that. They're not really going into the detail, but it pissed me off.
Speaker 1 | 12:39
Yeah, dude, stock photos are it.
Speaker 2 | 12:41
Fucking bullshit. Gotta paint over on the.
Speaker 1 | 12:43
I do web design. I don't know if I ever talked about that podcast, but... Stock photos are bullshit, man. There's so much bogus... Never gonna be used stock photos for sale on like Adobe stock comm which gigantic stock And there's just so much like old people's just like, it's like an old dude doing this in a white room.
Speaker 2 | 12:59
Is a reservoir.
Speaker 1 | 13:10
And it's like, And then there's like.
Speaker 2 | 13:10
Who's, they got everything. I gotta go through stock footage for my job to make things.
Yeah, it could be a pain. Sometimes you... You're like, that's the picture I need for my article or whatever.
Sometimes it's hard to find what you're looking for. Yeah.
Speaker 1 | 13:31
And then the good ones are used so widely that you don't want to use them. But this jam's better than what we're talking about.
Yeah! Got the tremolo, the flanger. Lifting it up.
Speaker 2 | 13:46
I'm not trying to do too much.
Speaker 1 | 14:08
Now that it's happening, it feels so familiar.
Speaker 2 | 14:10
Happy. I really hope we didn't do this jam before.
Speaker 1 | 14:14
No, you checked the It's a good one either way.
Speaker 2 | 14:20
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 | 14:22
That's why we repeat the same jam in multiple episodes.
Speaker 2 | 14:25
It's a good one. Maybe we'll publish it. We'll release it on limited edition VHS.
Speaker 1 | 14:31
I love those.
Speaker 2 | 14:38
Chris, I was thinking about that. I mean... It's probably cheaper to get a VCR and find the copy of the movie you want to watch on VHS.
You know, as long as it's made before, whatever. Then to keep up with like eight streaming services. You Yeah.
Speaker 1 | 14:55
. Yeah, I'm always talking about slimming down the streaming services. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 | 15:05
Like.
Speaker 1 | 15:05
I'd rather be bored than pay fucking billionaires to watch shit that I've already watched and know that I like. I used to own the things for $20 forever.
Yeah. And now you pay $10 a month. And do you use it? I don't know.
Speaker 2 | 15:25
You can buy the digital copy, but that's expensive. I copy.
Speaker 1 | 15:28
Fucking hate buying the digital Yeah.
Speaker 2 | 15:30
Then you can rent it if you really want to watch it.
Speaker 1 | 15:34
Then you're just, like, paying the billionaires to, like, have a hard drive somewhere. Like, no. Give you $3 so you can watch this movie for 24 hours and then... They'll, it.
Speaker 2 | 15:46
Like, shuffle around movies like, now you get.
Speaker 1 | 15:49
Yeah. Let's change contracts.
Yeah. And, like, so many of the movies are on one platform for free and then the other platform for paid watch.
Yeah. It's just bonkers. I fucking hate what's.
Speaker 2 | 16:02
Happening to me. I will say that the Watch Now app is cool because it'll tell you every way you can watch a movie. That way you know if you absolutely have to pay for it. Or go rummaging through an old DVD box like, I swear I had that movie.
Speaker 1 | 16:20
I'll have to check that out. - This jam's solid. - Yeah.
Speaker 2 | 16:26
It's upbeat.
Speaker 1 | 16:30
I'd call it like... Yeah, it is upbeat. Mid-tempo, upbeat. It's still like chill.
Yeah.
Like you're very.
Speaker 2 | 16:41
Relaxed. Yeah, I was probably cautiously optimistic about life at this point and wow things got very chaotic Right after this jam almost. But I got spit out of the tornado and really liked where I landed.
Speaker 1 | 17:00
Sounds like a.
Speaker 2 | 17:01
Tornado. Yeah, here comes the tornado, man. Foreshadowing.
All right. Yeah, this is.
Eric.
Speaker 1 | 17:51
There's the loop. Change the effect. Wow.
Speaker 2 | 18:04
Bravo, boys. Yeah, we might need to... Have that one.
Speaker 1 | 18:08
You mean like guitar tabs?
Speaker 2 | 18:10
No, like.. Darret. Highlight Future me, that was a good jam. We should keep that one. We should try and do something with doing?
Speaker 1 | 18:22
It. Isn't that what we're Yeah, but that was like...
That was like a mellow, very consistent jam. Yeah. It had some rises, didn't like rock out.
Speaker 2 | 18:34
But it didn't... Wasn't too long. Wasn't trying too much.
Yeah, we But I do like how the end was tornado-y.
Speaker 1 | 18:38
I wasn't trying to shred. Yeah. Did you want to expound on the tornado situation? You were like, last year at this point, I was very...
Speaker 2 | 18:50
I would just call it a whirlwind. So I is job old job first time coach of baseball So I know right before this jam was opening day.
Speaker 1 | 18:54
You had your old.
Speaker 2 | 19:02
So games were about to start. Okay, once game started I And...
Yeah, it was just a tornado of events. A lot of things happened. Sun broke his arm at one point. It was just a series of kind of unfortunate events, but like I said, once I got spit out of the tornado, I really liked where I landed.
Speaker 1 | 19:21
Well, good for you, man. Yeah.
Speaker 2 | 19:23
Cool. It's been a fun ride.
Speaker 1 | 19:25
Yeah. And now you're coaching baseball again.
Speaker 2 | 19:27
Yes, and we won first game.
Speaker 1 | 19:29
Your son's... Literally arm is good See?
Speaker 2 | 19:32
And his arm is mended. Yes, he's playing baseball.
Speaker 1 | 19:38
Hitting the ball?
Speaker 2 | 19:39
He, first game he walked, so he got on base, and he stole second and third.
Speaker 1 | 19:45
Nice! Yeah, stealing is That's the most exciting thing you can do in baseball.
Speaker 2 | 19:47
A big thing right now.
Speaker 1 | 19:51
Yes. Other than hit a home run. That's probably it.
Speaker 2 | 19:56
I don't care if it's on the other team. If I see one of these kids hit a home run, I'm going to lose it.
Speaker 1 | 20:01
Yeah. That's a big achievement.
Speaker 2 | 20:03
They don't hit it over the... The outfielders.
So that would be, that'd be cool.
Speaker 1 | 20:10
Yeah.
Speaker 2 | 20:11
- Sick. - Or maybe they're like cheating, using like a bat, they're not allowed to use.
Speaker 1 | 20:16
Whoa, does that happen in the Philippines? No, I'm just kidding.
Somebody check the core on that bat. Somewhere Okay.
Speaker 2 | 20:22
That happens. I don't think that's happening here.

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